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   The article i found says

Demon: The Fallen is a role-playing game and a fictional setting from the World of Darkness line by White Wolf Game Studio.

Well, no, it isn't. It seems likely that there is a game, and that its title is also used to describe the game's setting. But perhaps there are novels (that are described as part of said "line") whose setting's name is shared with the game. An article needs to start with a dictdef for its title, as a way of identifying the meaning intended by calling the topic of the article by that title. If it's a game, and discussing it requires discussing the setting, the setting can be brought in quickly or later, but not with this "is ... and" construction. Or if it's a fic-setting, say so, and sooner or later clear up whether its a setting for a game with that name or for novels, or whatever, but again, not via "is ... and" in the lead sent. If you can't do one or the other, you're mistaken, at least about being ready to work on the lead for the article.
   So, leaving it does would do more harm than making a sincere guess, and tagging it for norefs as a confession of possible cluelessness.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jerzy (talkcontribs) 07:50, 6 September 2015‎ & 08:16, 6 September 2015

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